[EP-tech] {Suspected SPAM} Re: AW: DOI import support

[yurj at alfa.it (Yuri)]

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Ok, but import from DOI should always works, as in other platforms. Also
because looking at a DOI, it is not simple to know if it cames from
Crossref or Datacite, so from the point of view of the user this is a
not working feature.

Are there external services that returns DOI metadata for every provider?

This is the situation:

https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcitation.crosscite.org%2Fdocs.html&data=05%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C12b5326d9f7f4452ce5508db7098bf5b%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C638227573561218655%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=esGzLqFnY3uK0FDLsyhgwz5yA6j0cpG%2BZbOIlar8qfc%3D&reserved=0

maybe we could switch to bibtex using content negotiation?


Il 19/06/23 09:29, David R Newman ha scritto:
> Hi Yuri and Jens,
>
> I think if the issue is retrieving metadata from CrossRef, then there
> is not much that can be done from an EPrints perspective. In the most
> recent version of the DOI import plugin we have switched to using the
> unixref format [1] (e.g.
> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdoi.crossref.org%2Fopenurl%2F%3Fpid%3Damail%40mail.com%26noredirect%3Dtrue%26format%3Dunixref%26id%3Ddoi%3A10.5281%2Fzenodo.7598185&data=05%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C12b5326d9f7f4452ce5508db7098bf5b%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C638227573561218655%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=R7n8xer%2FUff20nFf%2Fbko4%2BcUVUJqf99u1PnBkDr3%2FdA%3D&reserved=0
> ).  This similarly returns no metadata and in fact the error message
> is even more vague than the message you received. However, when I
> request the DOI you provide in the EPrints import plugin, I get an
> unhelpful error message.  Therefore, at least this DOI is useful to
> help improve the error output from an EPrints perspective, so it can
> better explains the error.
>
> Regards
>
> David Newman
>
> [1]
> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.crossref.org%2Fdocumentation%2Fretrieve-metadata%2Fxml-output-formats%2Funixref-query-output-format%2F&data=05%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C12b5326d9f7f4452ce5508db7098bf5b%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C638227573561218655%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=5N8QROHlCrf%2FKuvQ%2F2%2FpCBJq9mSpZAqbbr%2BWWju7jts%3D&reserved=0
>
> On 19/06/2023 8:14 am, Yuri wrote:
>> CAUTION: This e-mail originated outside the University of Southampton.
>>
>> on:
>>
>> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdoi.crossref.org%2Fopenurl%2F%3Fpid%3Damail%40mail.com%26noredirect%3Dtrue%26id%3Ddoi%3A10.5281%2Fzenodo.7598185&data=05%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C12b5326d9f7f4452ce5508db7098bf5b%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C638227573561218655%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=KctPMSxHRyDDn%2BNrYqUoQrbjvOj2Zjhu8lrdvjDBiJ8%3D&reserved=0
>>
>>
>> I get
>>
>> query status="unresolved" fl_count="0"
>>
>> but it resolves:
>>
>> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdoi.crossref.org%2Fopenurl%2F%3Fpid%3Damail%40mail.com%26%26id%3Ddoi%3A10.5281%2Fzenodo.7598185&data=05%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C12b5326d9f7f4452ce5508db7098bf5b%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C638227573561218655%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=S8iiV%2FI8fGQsrC3ElsFDshO80MgdfYHABz%2FywmbeSUM%3D&reserved=0
>>
>>
>> So the problem is on getting the metadata. There are a lot of metadata
>> format for DOIs (Crossref, Datacite...), so maybe DOIs without crossref
>> format cannot be imported?
>>
>>
>> Il 19/06/23 08:53, Jens Witzel ha scritto:
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> I don't know if it has to do with this, but we have also received
>>> feedback from some submitters in the last few days that certain DOIs
>>> cannot be imported even though they are listed at Crossref.
>>>
>>> A few tests later we found out that there are differences between:
>>>
>>> - https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdoi.crossref.org%2Fopenurl%2F%3Fpid%3Dxxxx%26id%3Ddoi%3Ayyyy&data=05%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C12b5326d9f7f4452ce5508db7098bf5b%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C638227573561218655%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=jp%2Bpnnmh3KJrLUSD62j8X0wVPoqRDS1L%2BQCcn%2FMCBA0%3D&reserved=0 and
>>> - https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapi.crossref.org%2Fworks%2Fyyyy%3Fmailto%3Dzzzzz&data=05%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C12b5326d9f7f4452ce5508db7098bf5b%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C638227573561218655%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=QpUKNz7BNvQR3lgxqphT9SYPU5zIBHG3XCyNVrAq4i0%3D&reserved=0
>>>
>>> exist. A few days both URLs delivered again and we put this on hold.
>>> Should we inform Crossref about this?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>   Jens
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