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Re: [EP-tech] Workflow Component:Multi layout and help issue

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Thanks David,


I found an override (within archive/XXX/cfg/plugins) to the EPrints::Repository::render_row_with_help that came across from the live repository (3.3.16) and removing it has resolved my issues in both the base 3.4.5 repository and the new version of ORO.  I was getting thrown by how it was rendering (not as the th, td, tr from the override) and that it affected both repositories from within the archive for one, but that makes sense given it was implemented as


undef &EPrints::Repository::render_row_with_help;

*EPrints::Repository::render_row_with_help = \&loc_render_row_with_help;


(Both repositories on the same eprints installation)


Thanks again,



From: David R Newman <drn@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Date: Wednesday, 7 February 2024 at 18:23
To: eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk <eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk>, Alan.Stiles [He/Him/They] <alan.stiles@open.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [EP-tech] Workflow Component:Multi layout and help issue

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Hi Alan,

This was a deliberate change in 3.4.5 to make the show/hide help icons easier to configure.  Do you have another lang/en/phrases/system.xml that overrides the one in lib?  The following are all new phrases added the lib phrases for 3.4.5:

<epp:phrase id="lib/session:hide_help_title">Hide help</epp:phrase>

<epp:phrase id="lib/session:hide_help_alt">-</epp:phrase>

<epp:phrase id="lib/session:hide_help_src">/style/images/minus.png</epp:phrase>

<epp:phrase id="lib/session:show_help_title">Show help</epp:phrase>

<epp:phrase id="lib/session:show_help_alt">+</epp:phrase>

<epp:phrase id="lib/session:show_help_src">/style/images/help.png</epp:phrase>

Also, the render_row_with_help function in perl_lib/EPrints/Repository.pm was updated to use these over the lib/session:show_help and lib/session:hide_help phrases, which were also removed from lib/lang/en/phrases/system.xml. I am a little confused how you are missing both sets of phrases bit in different places.


David Newman

On 07/02/2024 16:15, Alan.Stiles [He/Him/They] wrote:

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Back again!  (in 3.4.5)

The Multi-field component in the workflow appears to be missing a phrase for “lib/session:show_help”, whilst the single field component appears to now be using the three phrases “lib/session:show_help_alt”, “lib/session:show_help_title” and “lib/session:show_help_src”.  Similarly, the “lib/session:hide_help” phrase.


The multi-field component also seems to be contructing the inputform layout in a way that isn’t particularly helpful for styling – with the field titles as plain text, then the toggleable help text within two divs, followed by the form field within 3 divs, then a div for the show/hide help control (actually the missing phrases mentioned above) within a structure of dl, dd, dt tags.


I’m seeing this on both our customised dev system and on a base 3.4.5 install, in the pre-compliance section of the REF CC plugin or otherwise any multi-field workflow.


Essentially, is what I’m seeing consistent with exoected rendering, or are these things that want adding to the github as bugs?





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