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Re: [EP-tech] [EXTERNAL] Re: ORCID integration


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Many thanks again Will for such a quick work. We are on version 3.3.16 of eprints. I just checked EPrints Bazaar there and I see verion 1.7 for ORCID Support Advance Plugin (screenshot below). I guess upgrading that should work ? I will probably need to re-do some configuration ( like API keys , ringgold etc that were done on the z_orcid_support_advance.pl file).



Best regards,
Ranju

From: eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk <eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk> on behalf of Will Fyson via Eprints-tech <eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Sent: Wednesday 27 January 2021 11:51
To: Ranju Upadhyay <Ranju.Upadhyay@mu.ie>; eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk <eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk>; David R Newman <drn@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Cc: Fiona Morley <Fiona.Morley@mu.ie>; Suzanne Redmond Maloco <S.RedmondMaloco@mu.ie>
Subject: Re: [EP-tech] [EXTERNAL] Re: ORCID integration
 
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Hi Ranju,

The update has now been added to the Bazaar, bringing the Bazaar to version 1.7 (https://bazaar.eprints.org/1155/). Depending on what version you're currently on, there may be a few more changes in other updates too - a brief summary of different updates applied can be found at https://wiki.eprints.org/w/ORCID_Support#Change_Log_2.

Many thanks,

Will


Will Fyson
Development & Support Analyst, Research Technologies
CoSector, University of London
Senate House
Malet Street
London
WC1E 7HU

t: +44 (0)20 7863 1341
e: will.fyson@cosector.com
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From: Ranju Upadhyay <Ranju.Upadhyay@mu.ie>
Sent: 27 January 2021 09:09
To: eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk <eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk>; David R Newman <drn@ecs.soton.ac.uk>; Will Fyson <will.fyson@cosector.com>
Cc: Fiona Morley <Fiona.Morley@mu.ie>; Suzanne Redmond Maloco <S.RedmondMaloco@mu.ie>
Subject: Re: [EP-tech] [EXTERNAL] Re: ORCID integration
 
many thanks for this Will. Please let us know when it is added to EPrints Bazaar, it is the easiest to install from there!

Best regards
Ranju

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Sent: Tuesday 26 January 2021 17:59
To: Ranju Upadhyay <Ranju.Upadhyay@mu.ie>; eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk <eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk>; David R Newman <drn@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Cc: Fiona Morley <Fiona.Morley@mu.ie>; Suzanne Redmond Maloco <S.RedmondMaloco@mu.ie>
Subject: Re: [EP-tech] [EXTERNAL] Re: ORCID integration
 
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Hi Ranju,

I've applied a quick update to the plugin today that should now include a call to a user's orcid.org profile to revoke access for the repository as trusted organization when a user disconnectes their orcid. 

At the moment the up to date version of the plugin can be found at https://github.com/eprints/orcid_support_advance but I'll look into getting the version on the Bazaar updated too.

I hope this helps!

Many thanks,

Will


Will Fyson
Development & Support Analyst, Research Technologies
CoSector, University of London
Senate House
Malet Street
London
WC1E 7HU

t: +44 (0)20 7863 1341
e: will.fyson@cosector.com
w: https://cosector.com/digital-research/

The University of London is an exempt charity in England and Wales.


From: Ranju Upadhyay <Ranju.Upadhyay@mu.ie>
Sent: 25 January 2021 10:54
To: eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk <eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk>; David R Newman <drn@ecs.soton.ac.uk>; Will Fyson <will.fyson@cosector.com>
Cc: Fiona Morley <Fiona.Morley@mu.ie>; Suzanne Redmond Maloco <S.RedmondMaloco@mu.ie>
Subject: Re: [EP-tech] [EXTERNAL] Re: ORCID integration
 
Many thanks Will.

Best Regards
Ranju

Ranju Upadhyay Rai

Library Programmer

University Library

 

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Maynooth University, Maynooth, Co. Kildare, Ireland, W23 VP22


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Sent: Thursday 21 January 2021 17:23
To: Ranju Upadhyay <Ranju.Upadhyay@mu.ie>; eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk <eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk>; David R Newman <drn@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Cc: Fiona Morley <Fiona.Morley@mu.ie>; Suzanne Redmond Maloco <S.RedmondMaloco@mu.ie>
Subject: Re: [EP-tech] [EXTERNAL] Re: ORCID integration
 
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Hi Ranju, David,

Thanks for bringing these two issues to my attention. 

When first developing the plugin I think we decided that using the user type would be the easiest and most suitable approach to determining if a user's ORCID affiliation should be set in either the Education or Employment section of their user profile. Whether or not a user is a researcher or student isn't something is consistently definedi n EPrints, but based on what we saw a number of repositories using in practice, it seemed best to go with the user type field as the filter. If you need to change this however you  may be able to override the OrcidSync Event plugin so it uses different criteria (I think https://github.com/eprints/orcid_support_advance/blob/c938958c1f4f0f72f016a04b0962f180b8d79246/lib/plugins/EPrints/Plugin/Event/OrcidSync.pm#L33-L37 would be the bit that needs changing).

With regards to the Trusted Organisations entry not being removed when a user disconnects their repository account from their orcid.org profile, it looks like this is an oversight from the original plugin development. We'll try and get that resolved as soon as possible and get the change added to GitHub for people to review/use! 

Thanks again for alerting us to this and it's good to hear you are finding the plugin generally useful!

Many thanks,

Will


Will Fyson
Development & Support Analyst, Research Technologies
CoSector, University of London
Senate House
Malet Street
London
WC1E 7HU

t: +44 (0)20 7863 1341
e: will.fyson@cosector.com
w: https://cosector.com/digital-research/

The University of London is an exempt charity in England and Wales.


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Cc: Fiona Morley <Fiona.Morley@mu.ie>; Suzanne Redmond Maloco <S.RedmondMaloco@mu.ie>
Subject: Re: [EP-tech] [EXTERNAL] Re: ORCID integration
 

Hi Ranju,


Only if you have different user types for staff and students in EPrints itself.  I am not a developer on this plugin, so I don't know why the choice to use user type to determine whether to set education of employment affiliation was made.  However, I think it is quite common for repositories to have different user types for staff and students, as you would typically want to greater restrict the permissions of students using EPrints.


Regards


David Newman


On 21/01/2021 12:48, Ranju Upadhyay wrote:
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Thanks David.

One more issue with ORCID integration is about user's education affiliation.


Currently the only user types that I can set is "user", "Editors" and "Repository Administrators" when registering someone in eprints.There is no distinction between staff and student. #

Because of this if I enable user education affiliation in ORCID advanced plugin configuration and set a user type to be user, all users who connect from our repo to ORCID will have their education set as Maynooth University i.e. the following array

$c->{orcid_support_advance}->{education_user_types} = ["user"];

is there a way one could distinguish between staff and student?
Best Regards
Ranju

Ranju Upadhyay Rai

Library Programmer

University Library

 

Ollscoil Mhá Nuad, Maigh Nuad, Co. Chill Dara, Éire, W23 VP22

Maynooth University, Maynooth, Co. Kildare, Ireland, W23 VP22


T: +353 1 708 3378  M: +353 87 98 43811

Ranju.Upadhyay@mu.ie W: www.maynoothuniversity.ie/library


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Sent: Thursday 21 January 2021 12:15
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Cc: Fiona Morley <Fiona.Morley@mu.ie>; Suzanne Redmond Maloco <S.RedmondMaloco@mu.ie>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [EP-tech] ORCID integration
 

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Hi Ranju,

I have raised this as an issue on the GitHub repository:

https://github.com/eprints/orcid_support_advance/issues/58

I am not sure if there is code in the ORCID Support Advance plugin that should be doing this or it is just a case that it is broken.  That would take further investigation and is why I have raised the GitHub issue.  However, if ORCID state this should be happening then it must be considered a bug one way or the other.

Regards

David Newman

On 21/01/2021 11:26, Ranju Upadhyay via Eprints-tech wrote:
we are testing ORCID integration in eprints. we have installed all the plugins and most of the things seem to work. However, there is one part that does not seem to work as ORCID expects it to. When a user disconnects from ORCID in her/his profile in eprints, the "Trusted Organisation" section in ORCID side does not get updated i.e it does not delete the Trusted Organisation from users profile in ORCID even though the user has disconnected . 

ORCID says it should.

My question is , should that be deleted ?

Does anyone know?

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