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[EP-tech] {Suspected SPAM} Re: Multi-Factor Authentication (MFA) for EPrints Login



Hi both,


 From what I can work out it looks like they provide in essence the 
"glue" to make this work.? The AuthDigital "cloud" allows you to come in 
using a protocol already supported by EPrints, in this case SAML 
(Shibboleth as a Service Provider) and then federate to a wide spectrum 
of authentication services.? This is useful if the authentication 
service you need to use is OAuth/OpenID Connect based and not 
SAML/Shibboleth.? Maybe they support direct OAuth/OpenID Connect 
authentication (e.g. a plugin for EPrints) but I cannot see any specific 
reference to this.? If my interpretation is correct, you would want to 
make the following considerations:


1. The subscription fee I would assume you would need to pay for this 
service.

2. A further party you need to deal with when managing user 
authentication for your repository.

3. A potential additional point of failure.? I would assume any 
subscription would come with an SLA.? However, what happens if they stop 
offering a subscription for this service?


Regards


David Newman


On 23/03/2023 14:08, Tomasz Neugebauer wrote:
> *CAUTION:* This e-mail originated outside the University of Southampton.
> I will have to figure out how to do MFA with our EPrints instance as 
> well, so this discussion is timely and useful for me.? Martin, thanks 
> for the link to "Authdigital", interesting to see EPrints in their 
> service offer for this.? I don't have any experience or knowledge of 
> the quality of their work.
>
> Tomasz
>
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> *From:* Martin Br?ndle <martin.braendle at uzh.ch>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2023 12:23 PM
> *To:* John Salter <J.Salter at leeds.ac.uk>; eprints-tech at ecs.soton.ac.uk 
> <eprints-tech at ecs.soton.ac.uk>; David R Newman <drn at ecs.soton.ac.uk>
> *Cc:* Tomasz Neugebauer <Tomasz.Neugebauer at concordia.ca>
> *Subject:* Re: [EP-tech] Multi-Factor Authentication (MFA) for EPrints 
> Login
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> Dear all, dear David and John,
>
> thank you for your answers. I have found this Canadian enterprise 
> doing OAuth with EPrints .
>
> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fauthdigital.com%2Feprints-single-sign-on&data=05%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C0c4918feb94f4b2e3bfe08db2bb9611d%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C638151847410695005%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=ixCF%2BV7ReP82FgF74XTmV64RXcvTQ4RU%2BTeroaSyk24%3D&reserved=0 
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> Any experience around with them?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Martin
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> Dr. Martin Br?ndle
> Zentrale Informatik
> Universit?t Z?rich
> Stampfenbachstr. 73
> CH-8006 Z?rich
>
> *From: *John Salter <J.Salter at leeds.ac.uk>
> *Date: *Tuesday, 21 March 2023 at 12:00
> *To: *eprints-tech at ecs.soton.ac.uk <eprints-tech at ecs.soton.ac.uk>, 
> David R Newman <drn at ecs.soton.ac.uk>, Martin Br?ndle 
> <martin.braendle at uzh.ch>
> *Subject: *RE: [EP-tech] Multi-Factor Authentication (MFA) for EPrints 
> Login
>
> Hi Martin,
> This is something we're looking at too (no answers as yet).
> One of the route's we're looking at is to use Orcid as the sign-on 
> route, which could then go via the institutional SSO (with MFA).
>
> The edge cases (admin accounts, API accounts) would still need a route 
> to be able to authenticate too?
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
>
> *From:*eprints-tech-bounces at ecs.soton.ac.uk 
> [mailto:eprints-tech-bounces at ecs.soton.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *David R 
> Newman via Eprints-tech
> *Sent:* 21 March 2023 10:51
> *To:* eprints-tech at ecs.soton.ac.uk; Martin Br?ndle 
> <martin.braendle at uzh.ch>
> *Subject:* Re: [EP-tech] Multi-Factor Authentication (MFA) for EPrints 
> Login
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have added a page for MFA on the EPrints wiki.? It really just says 
> what I said below.? However, if anyone has extra detail to add, please 
> update this page:
>
> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.eprints.org%2Fw%2FMulti-Factor_Authentication&data=05%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C0c4918feb94f4b2e3bfe08db2bb9611d%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C638151847410695005%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=opCoEgs%2F3KtpcXTf8OGYsss%2FLxdkzMYUi8Jy0wx2h%2Fw%3D&reserved=0 
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> If anyone has attempted implementing OAuth-based login for EPrints and 
> wants to share this, then this would certainly be considered for 
> addition to the main EPrints 3.4. codebase, if you are happy for this 
> to be added. Either way, if you have any helpful advice on using 
> OAuth-based user authentication with EPrints (especially if it 
> includes MFA support) then creating a page (probably called OAuth) for 
> this on the wiki that would be really useful.
>
> Regards
>
> David Newman
>
> On 21/03/2023 10:36 am, David R Newman via Eprints-tech wrote:
>
>     Hi Martin,
>
>     The way that most repositories do this is to use institutional
>     single sign on (SSO) that will now normally have MFA baked in.?
>     EPrints integrates with this using Shibboleth where it acts as a
>     Service Provider:
>
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>     There are no plans to implement MFA directly into EPrints, as
>     there are existing implementations that could be integrated into
>     EPrints on a case-by-case basis.? If you do not have institutional
>     SSO that allows you to configure EPrints as a Shibboleth Service
>     Provider, then an OAuth implementation may be possible.? As I have
>     not needed this, I have not had reason to implement it.? I don't
>     know if anyone else has tried implementing an OAuth user
>     authentication implementation for EPrints.
>
>     Regards
>
>     David Newman
>
>     On 21/03/2023 10:23 am, Martin Br?ndle via Eprints-tech wrote:
>
>         *CAUTION:*This e-mail originated outside the University of
>         Southampton.
>
>         Dear all,
>
>         IT security at our institution requires that all services that
>         provide login to user accounts implement multi-factor
>         authentication in some way (e.g. via Azure AD and Microsoft
>         Authenticator or another authenticator). We must check our
>         EPrints repository, too.
>
>         Has anybody done this and could provide us with some hints how
>         to do? Currently we use LDAP .
>
>         https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.eprints.org%2Fw%2FCategory%3AAuthentication&data=05%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C0c4918feb94f4b2e3bfe08db2bb9611d%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C638151847410695005%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=64lKJxzCCzRf%2Fkpm2yUI1W1mUTZJmCDD0Jtv4a%2FMSis%3D&reserved=0
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>         and sub-pages seem not to be up-to-date.
>
>         Thanks in advance and kind regards,
>
>         Martin
>
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>         Dr. Martin Br?ndle
>         Zentrale Informatik
>         Universit?t Z?rich
>         Stampfenbachstr. 73
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