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[EP-tech] [EXTERNAL] Re: ORCID integration
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Hi Ranju, David,
Thanks for bringing these two issues to my attention.
When first developing the plugin I think we decided that using the user type would be the easiest and most suitable approach to determining if a user's ORCID affiliation should be set in either the Education or Employment section of their user profile. Whether or not a user is a researcher or student isn't something is consistently definedi n EPrints, but based on what we saw a number of repositories using in practice, it seemed best to go with the user type field as the filter. If you need to change this however you may be able to override the OrcidSync Event plugin so it uses different criteria (I think https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Feprints%2Forcid_support_advance%2Fblob%2Fc938958c1f4f0f72f016a04b0962f180b8d79246%2Flib%2Fplugins%2FEPrints%2FPlugin%2FEvent%2FOrcidSync.pm%23L33-L37&data=04%7C01%7Ceprints-tech%40ecs.soton.ac.uk%7C242a4e8805b24a4d21ab08d8be3154df%7C4a5378f929f44d3ebe89669d03ada9d8%7C0%7C0%7C637468466402246188%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=PDXLUMJApIE%2BXZ%2BgmKT4PZLpgAtgHBpLJv1CLbmxaOU%3D&reserved=0 would be the bit that needs changing).
With regards to the Trusted Organisations entry not being removed when a user disconnects their repository account from their orcid.org profile, it looks like this is an oversight from the original plugin development. We'll try and get that resolved as soon as possible and get the change added to GitHub for people to review/use!
Thanks again for alerting us to this and it's good to hear you are finding the plugin generally useful!
Many thanks,
Will
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From: eprints-tech-bounces at ecs.soton.ac.uk <eprints-tech-bounces at ecs.soton.ac.uk> on behalf of David R Newman via Eprints-tech <eprints-tech at ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Sent: 21 January 2021 12:56
To: Ranju Upadhyay <Ranju.Upadhyay at mu.ie>; eprints-tech at ecs.soton.ac.uk <eprints-tech at ecs.soton.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: [EP-tech] [EXTERNAL] Re: ORCID integration
Hi Ranju,
Only if you have different user types for staff and students in EPrints itself. I am not a developer on this plugin, so I don't know why the choice to use user type to determine whether to set education of employment affiliation was made. However, I think it is quite common for repositories to have different user types for staff and students, as you would typically want to greater restrict the permissions of students using EPrints.
Regards
David Newman
On 21/01/2021 12:48, Ranju Upadhyay wrote:
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Thanks David.
One more issue with ORCID integration is about user's education affiliation.
Currently the only user types that I can set is "user", "Editors" and "Repository Administrators" when registering someone in eprints.There is no distinction between staff and student. #
Because of this if I enable user education affiliation in ORCID advanced plugin configuration and set a user type to be user, all users who connect from our repo to ORCID will have their education set as Maynooth University i.e. the following array
$c->{orcid_support_advance}->{education_user_types} = ["user"];
is there a way one could distinguish between staff and student?
Best Regards
Ranju
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From: David R Newman <drn at ecs.soton.ac.uk><mailto:drn at ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Sent: Thursday 21 January 2021 12:15
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [EP-tech] ORCID integration
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Hi Ranju,
I have raised this as an issue on the GitHub repository:
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I am not sure if there is code in the ORCID Support Advance plugin that should be doing this or it is just a case that it is broken. That would take further investigation and is why I have raised the GitHub issue. However, if ORCID state this should be happening then it must be considered a bug one way or the other.
Regards
David Newman
On 21/01/2021 11:26, Ranju Upadhyay via Eprints-tech wrote:
we are testing ORCID integration in eprints. we have installed all the plugins and most of the things seem to work. However, there is one part that does not seem to work as ORCID expects it to. When a user disconnects from ORCID in her/his profile in eprints, the "Trusted Organisation" section in ORCID side does not get updated i.e it does not delete the Trusted Organisation from users profile in ORCID even though the user has disconnected .
ORCID says it should.
My question is , should that be deleted ?
Does anyone know?
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