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Re: [EP-tech] Eprints-tech Digest, Vol 145, Issue 14

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Hi Lindsay

 

Thanks for this that’s really useful – I had a look at that UKCorr thread from the archive and the consensus seems to be to count gold as in-scope.  I also can’t find anything gin the guidance that says gold should be out of scope.

 

I wonder if the refcc plugin should have its compliant / outofscope tests updated?

 

So add the check for hoa_gold into the sub for ‘run_test_Compliant’ to show gold as compliant, and remove that check from ‘OUT_OF_SCOPE_reason’

 

Not sure if that’s the most efficient way or this would have knock on effects elsewhere.  Or indeed if others are convinced this should be done! 

 

Regards

Mick

 

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Hi Mick,

 

Just quickly, I recognise this conundrum, it came up briefly on UKCoRR not so long ago. REF guidance I am sure used phrase 'Out Of Scope'/not in scope for Gold at one point, but when I looked for it, it had changed. If you exclude Gold you could swing percentages alot for a bioscience UoA, which is helped by having access to that funding stream. I think the ISSN logic may be an optional flag? I'm calculating like the latter and using additional external logic/cross referencing. I think the plugin needs a refresh against current policy and validation (which is changing nationally). REF CC and REF Support plugin don't always seem to match. The exports need to match current policy specification, also it exports compliance for output REF types other than C & D (journal article & conference contributions). Different repositories seem to be on varying versions, bug fixes and customisations.

 

Best,

 

Linds

 

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Hi all

I was wondering if any Ref Plugin users on the list can help us out with this...

We are calculating our percentage of compliance with REF Open Access policy to make sure we're below the 5% threshold.

The REF Plugin marks gold open access items as 'OutOfScope' (along with articles and conference proceedings accepted before 1/4/2016, or with no ISSN, or other item types).

The REF Guidance states that each unit can submit up to 5% 'in-scope' items that do not meet the requirements.

So should the denominator we use to get our percentage exclude gold items because the plugin says they are 'OutOfScope' or do we include them in the number because they are effectively 'compliant' (and give ourselves a bit more leeway?).

The latter seems the fairest to me - but that then leads to how other plugin users highlight which 'OutOfScope' items are in fact gold/compliant when using the Submission System report to send off to Research England?

Any help much appreciated!
Thanks
Mick


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