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[EP-tech] Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: HTML5 and EPrints



The day after the EPrints User Group Meeting, there?s a technical day planned in Bath.  Perhaps this can be looked at there.


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Adam Field
SHERPA services analyst developer



From: "jens.vieler at id.uzh.ch" <jens.vieler at id.uzh.ch>
Date: Wednesday, 7 December 2016 07:37
To: Adam Field <Adam.Field at jisc.ac.uk>
Cc: "eprints-tech at ecs.soton.ac.uk" <eprints-tech at ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Subject: Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: [EP-tech] HTML5 and EPrints


Dear Adam,

thanks for your statement.

> Aside from failing an HTML purity test, are there further issues caused by these unrecognized tags?  Is there a better way EPrints could present this information?

Fulfilling the tests is not for your own sake... it made it easier to make a deeper look behind the scenes, showed us a lot about bad things that grew through the years AND let us know things about 'old school' tags (tables e.g) that could be a problem for mobile usage. So all in all we want to go the road till the end of all warnings ;-)

Cheers
 Jens

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[nactive hide details for Adam Field ---05.12.2016 12:45:35---Hi Jens]Adam Field ---05.12.2016 12:45:35---Hi Jens                 So, the sword interface was going to be the next big thing a few years ago,

Von: Adam Field <Adam.Field at jisc.ac.uk>
An: "jens.vieler at id.uzh.ch" <jens.vieler at id.uzh.ch>, "eprints-tech at ecs.soton.ac.uk" <eprints-tech at ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Datum: 05.12.2016 12:45
Betreff: Re: Antwort: Re: [EP-tech] HTML5 and EPrints

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Hi Jens

                So, the sword interface was going to be the next big thing a few years ago, allowing automated deposit into repositories.  Unfortunately, it doesn?t seem to have stuck (for whatever reason).  For example, PURE, the CRIS, has its own connector that you need to install in EPrints in order to allow automated updating of records.  Symplectic Elements is the same.

                I?m not sure what the status of the project is, or who could take on extra EPrints development required to make it HTML compliant (I assume that modifying EPrints would be simpler than modifying the HTML spec).  As for me, my responsibilities are currently tied to SHERPA Services, so I?m not able to spend any time on this, but I?ll ask around and see if I can find anyone connected with this.

                Aside from failing an HTML purity test, are there further issues caused by these unrecognized tags?  Is there a better way EPrints could present this information?

Best Wishes


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Adam Field
SHERPA services analyst developer




From: "jens.vieler at id.uzh.ch" <jens.vieler at id.uzh.ch>
Date: Wednesday, 30 November 2016 09:37
To: "eprints-tech at ecs.soton.ac.uk" <eprints-tech at ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Cc: Adam Field <Adam.Field at jisc.ac.uk>
Subject: Antwort: Re: [EP-tech] HTML5 and EPrints


Hey Ian,
(Cc: Adam Field because this is jisc stuff)

thanks - and i found http://wiki.eprints.org/w/API:EPrints/Apache/CRUD#DESCRIPTION

So i redefine my question: Which kind of application really uses this CRUD API?

On the other hand we could talk about what the validator https://validator.w3.org/nu/?showsource=yes&showoutline=yes&showimagereport=yes&doc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.zora.uzh.ch%2F120438%2F says

[...]
"Bad value Sword for attribute rel on element link<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/single-page.html#the-link-element>: The string sword is not a registered keyword. "
"Bad value SwordDeposit for attribute rel on element link<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/single-page.html#the-link-element>: The string sworddeposit is not a registered keyword."
[...]

and about registering 'sword' and 'sworddeposit'. I think, this should be jisc's job... @Adam???

Jens
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[active hide details for Ian Stuart ---30.11.2016 10:16:34---SWORD 2 http]Ian Stuart ---30.11.2016 10:16:34---SWORD 2 http://wiki.eprints.org/w/SWORD

Von: Ian Stuart <Ian.Stuart at ed.ac.uk>
An: <eprints-tech at ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Datum: 30.11.2016 10:16
Betreff: Re: [EP-tech] HTML5 and EPrints
Gesendet von: eprints-tech-bounces at ecs.soton.ac.uk

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SWORD 2

http://wiki.eprints.org/w/SWORD

The second <link /> is where one goes to find out what the specific
SWORD configuration is for the repository

The third <link /> is the base URL for making SWORD deposits

What's the fight about?

On 30/11/16 09:00, jens.vieler at id.uzh.ch wrote:
> Dear List,
>
> after making some changes on templates and a couple of modules like
> XHTML.pm, we proudly offer some output, that looks like html5 - just to
> calm down W3C Validator (https://validator.w3.org/nu/) on our responsive
> design. In the end we fight against these link rels:
>
> *<link rel="schema.DC" href="**http://purl.org/DC/elements/1.0/**"; />*
> *<link rel="Sword"
> href="**https://www.zora.uzh.ch/sword-app/servicedocument**"; />*
> *<link rel="SwordDeposit" href="**https://www.zora.uzh.ch/id/contents**";
> />*
>
> Does anybody know, what they are use for? Are Sword links really nedded
> in every single webpage?
>
> Jens
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> Jens Vieler
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> Universit?t Z?rich
> Stampfenbachstrasse 73
> CH-8006 Z?rich
>
> mail:  jens.vieler at id.uzh.ch
> phone: +41 44 63 56777
> http://www.id.uzh.ch<http://www.id.uzh.ch/>
>
>
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