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From: "Kenneth Hirsh" <ken AT law.duke.edu>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:47:18 -0400

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I an looking for help with both the eprints statistics package from U Tasmania ↵
and the IRstats package. Since both of these provide very sparse documentation, ↵
and the IRStats list was of no help, I thought some of you might be able to ↵
help.
 
For the Eprints stats package, this is the issue:  When I upgraded from ↵
eprints2 to eprints 3, I was running both versions on the same box for awhile, ↵
so I used the same archive name, but gave the database a different name with ↵
eprints 3.  The stats package is still pulling data from the older database ↵
(lawarchive, which is also the archive ID, rather than newarchive, which is the ↵
new database name.) Can I fix this with settings for eprinstats, or do I need ↵
to recreate the lawarchive table from newarchive, and make that the table for ↵
the archive?
 
For the IRStats package, I am running into various errors and would appreciate ↵
help from anyone with knowledge of the package.
 
Ken Hirsh
 
 
Kenneth J. Hirsh
Duke University School of Law
ken AT law.duke.edu 
Voice (919) 613-7155
Fax (919) 613-7231

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From: "Kenneth Hirsh" <ken AT law.duke.edu>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:13:51 -0400

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Having successfully copied the database to lawarchive and configured eprints to ↵
point to that database. I now see that the UTas statistics package cannot ↵
handle ePrints3 at all.  It is looking for the table structure for eprints2.  ↵
So, my need for help with IRStats is efven more important.
Ken
 
changed the 
>>> On 4/29/2008 at 10:47 AM, in message <4816FC1D.66C5.0084.0 AT ↵
law.duke.edu>, "Kenneth Hirsh" <ken AT law.duke.edu> wrote:
I an looking for help with both the eprints statistics package from U Tasmania ↵
and the IRstats package. Since both of these provide very sparse documentation, ↵
and the IRStats list was of no help, I thought some of you might be able to ↵
help.
 
For the Eprints stats package, this is the issue:  When I upgraded from ↵
eprints2 to eprints 3, I was running both versions on the same box for awhile, ↵
so I used the same archive name, but gave the database a different name with ↵
eprints 3.  The stats package is still pulling data from the older database ↵
(lawarchive, which is also the archive ID, rather than newarchive, which is the ↵
new database name.) Can I fix this with settings for eprinstats, or do I need ↵
to recreate the lawarchive table from newarchive, and make that the table for ↵
the archive?
 
For the IRStats package, I am running into various errors and would appreciate ↵
help from anyone with knowledge of the package.
 
Ken Hirsh
 
 
Kenneth J. Hirsh
Duke University School of Law
ken AT law.duke.edu 
Voice (919) 613-7155
Fax (919) 613-7231

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From: Christian McGee <C.McGee AT utas.edu.au>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 3:37:14 +1000

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Hi Kenneth,

I can help you get the UTas package to work under 3.  I had to make
changes to the installed version to get it to work for our ePrints 3
installation.  It was sometime ago but I will revisit what I did and send 
you some details over the next week or two.

You will not need to recreate database tables.

I will make a new ePrintsStats package available to the ePrints community 
as soon as possible.

Kind Regards, Christian.

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On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 0:47:18 +1000 "Kenneth Hirsh" wrote:

I an looking for help with both the eprints statistics package from U
Tasmania and the IRstats package. Since both of these provide very sparse 
documentation, and the IRStats list was of no help, I thought some of you 
might be able to help.
 
For the Eprints stats package, this is the issue:  When I upgraded from
eprints2 to eprints 3, I was running both versions on the same box for
awhile, so I used the same archive name, but gave the database a
different name with eprints 3.  The stats package is still pulling data
from the older database (lawarchive, which is also the archive ID, rather 
than newarchive, which is the new database name.) Can I fix this with
settings for eprinstats, or do I need to recreate the lawarchive table
from newarchive, and make that the table for the archive?
 
For the IRStats package, I am running into various errors and would
appreciate help from anyone with knowledge of the package.
 
Ken Hirsh
 
 
Kenneth J. Hirsh
Duke University School of Law
ken AT law.duke.edu 
Voice (919) 613-7155
Fax (919) 613-7231
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From: "Kenneth Hirsh" <ken AT law.duke.edu>
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 09:54:02 -0400

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Christian,
Have you had the opportunity to give me this information?
Ken
 
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>>> On 4/29/2008 at 1:37 PM, in message ↵
<200804291737.m3THbESh002445 AT boyes.its.utas.edu.au>, Christian McGee ↵
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Hi Kenneth,

I can help you get the UTas package to work under 3.  I had to make
changes to the installed version to get it to work for our ePrints 3
installation.  It was sometime ago but I will revisit what I did and send 
you some details over the next week or two.

You will not need to recreate database tables.

I will make a new ePrintsStats package available to the ePrints community 
as soon as possible.

Kind Regards, Christian.

==============Original message text===============
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 0:47:18 +1000 "Kenneth Hirsh" wrote:

I an looking for help with both the eprints statistics package from U
Tasmania and the IRstats package. Since both of these provide very sparse 
documentation, and the IRStats list was of no help, I thought some of you 
might be able to help.

For the Eprints stats package, this is the issue:  When I upgraded from
eprints2 to eprints 3, I was running both versions on the same box for
awhile, so I used the same archive name, but gave the database a
different name with eprints 3.  The stats package is still pulling data
from the older database (lawarchive, which is also the archive ID, rather 
than newarchive, which is the new database name.) Can I fix this with
settings for eprinstats, or do I need to recreate the lawarchive table
from newarchive, and make that the table for the archive?

For the IRStats package, I am running into various errors and would
appreciate help from anyone with knowledge of the package.

Ken Hirsh


Kenneth J. Hirsh
Duke University School of Law
ken AT law.duke.edu 
Voice (919) 613-7155
Fax (919) 613-7231
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From: Yuri <yurj AT alfa.it>
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 16:26:31 +0200

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Kenneth Hirsh wrote:
> Christian,
> Have you had the opportunity to give me this information?
> Ken
>  
> Kenneth J. Hirsh
> Duke University School of Law
> ken AT law.duke.edu
> Voice (919) 613-7155
> Fax (919) 613-7231
>
> >>> On 4/29/2008 at 1:37 PM, in message 
> <200804291737.m3THbESh002445 AT boyes.its.utas.edu.au>, Christian ↵
McGee 
> <C.McGee AT utas.edu.au> wrote:
> *** 
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> <http://www.eprints.org/tech.php/id/%3C200804291737.m3THbESh002445 AT ↵
boyes.its.utas.edu.au%3E>
> *** EPrints community wiki - http://wiki.eprints.org/
>
> Hi Kenneth,
>
> I can help you get the UTas package to work under 3.  I had to make
> changes to the installed version to get it to work for our ePrints 3
> installation.  It was sometime ago but I will revisit what I did and send
> you some details over the next week or two.
>
> You will not need to recreate database tables.
>
> I will make a new ePrintsStats package available to the ePrints community
> as soon as possible.


I think this package is so important that it should ship with the 
Eprints distribution.

From: Christian McGee <C.McGee AT utas.edu.au>
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 11:34:01 +1000

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On 14/05/2008, at 12:26 AM, Yuri wrote:

> I think this package is so important that it should ship with the  
> Eprints distribution.


The one developed at UTas (with acknowledgement to Uni Melbourne /  
Uni of Otago) should NOT in my opinion be shipped with Eprints -  
although I personally cannot really say this.  It would be up to the  
UK guys and the main developer Arthur Sale to determine this.  The UK  
guys are working on their own stats solution IRstats available at:
http://trac.eprints.org/projects/irstats

When this is more mature perhaps this should be bundled with ePrints??

I have been meaning to get this installed and start using it here at  
UTas as either a replacement  for our current stats package or more  
likely as an extra stats package offering more or different stats to  
our users and the general community.  Unfortunately I have not yet  
found the time to get it working on a development server. Hope to  
real soon - I keep saying this :-)

FYI:  There has been some problems with the current package running  
on our ePrints 3 production server recently that I have almost  
completely solved.  Our production server was performing extremely  
badly (slowly) and it turned out to be mysql being bogged down with  
requests from web robots for statistics pages.  Also web robots were  
hitting other parts of the eprints site filling up the statistics  
database with hits.  We had to deny robots access to the /es/  
directory through the robots.txt file.  We also added an index to the  
stats mysql database and removed all hits from robots from the stats  
database.  The statistics have been reenabled and are performing alot  
better whilst not affecting overall system performance.  Although we  
have now got complaints from researchers that their stats for their  
documents are now lower than before - this is because we have removed  
the downloads from robots from the database.  When I have finished  
making changes I will repost the stats package on the UTas eprints  
site and send the details to the list.

BTW:  I have just noticed that the Uni of Otago have changed the UTas  
stats so that it reports hits from Web robots separately:
http://eprints.otago.ac.nz/es/?archive=otago_eprints

Kind regards, Christian.

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Christian McGee,  Senior Computer Systems Officer,
School of Computing and Information Systems, University of Tasmania,
Telephone: +61 03 6324 3445,  Fax: +61 03 6324 3368,
E-mail: C.McGee AT utas.edu.au




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developed at UTas (with =
acknowledgement to Uni Melbourne / Uni of Otago)=A0should NOT in my =
opinion be shipped with Eprints - although I personally cannot really =
say this. =A0It would be up to the UK guys and the main developer Arthur =
Sale to determine this. =A0The UK guys are working on their own stats =
solution IRstats available at:<div><div><a =
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projects/irstats</a></div><div><br></div><div>When this is more mature =
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ePrints??</div><div><br></div><div><div>I ↵
have been meaning to get this =
installed and start using it here at UTas as either a replacement =A0for =
our current stats package or more likely as an extra stats package =
offering more or different stats to our users and the general community. =
=A0Unfortunately I have not yet found the time to get it working on a =
development server. Hope to real soon - I keep saying this =
:-)</div><div><br></div><div>FYI: =A0There has ↵
been some problems with =
the current package running on our ePrints 3 production server recently =
that I have almost completely solved. =A0Our production server was =
performing extremely badly (slowly) and it turned out to be mysql being =
bogged down with requests from web robots for statistics pages. =A0Also =
web robots were hitting other parts of the eprints site filling up the =
statistics database with hits. =A0We had to deny robots access to the =
/es/ directory through the robots.txt file. =A0We also added an index to =
the stats mysql database and removed all hits from robots from the stats =
database. =A0The statistics have been reenabled and are performing alot =
better whilst not affecting overall system performance. =A0Although we =
have now got complaints from researchers that their stats for their =
documents are now lower than before - this is because we have removed =
the downloads from robots from the database. =A0When I have finished =
making changes I will repost the stats package on the UTas eprints site =
and send the details to the ↵
list.</div><div><br></div><div>BTW: =A0I =
have just noticed that the Uni of Otago have changed the UTas stats so =
that it reports hits from Web robots separately:</div><div><a =
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