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From: Patrick Vandewalle <Patrick.Vandewalle AT epfl.ch>
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:16:07 +0200

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Dear all,

We have currently a rather limited size repository, and I would like  
to know whether it is possible to assign a more 'meaningful' (manually  
chosen) name to an item for its URL. Right now, each item gets a  
number, and the url is e.g. rr.epfl.ch/3/, which I would like to  
replace by e.g. rr.epfl.ch/superresolution/. Would there be a way of  
doing this within EPrints? Or do I have to write redirects for each of  
those (meaningful) addresses to the numerical equivalent?

Thanks already for your help!
Patrick

From: Leslie Carr <lac AT ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 21:25:50 +0100

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Where do you plan for those names to come from? Are they metadata in  
the repository? If so, are the names persistent? What happens if  
someone changes the metadata?
--
Les Carr



On 14 Jun 2009, at 21:16, Patrick Vandewalle wrote:

> http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/eprints-tech
> *** EPrints community wiki - http://wiki.eprints.org/
> Dear all,
>
> We have currently a rather limited size repository, and I would like
> to know whether it is possible to assign a more 'meaningful' (manually
> chosen) name to an item for its URL. Right now, each item gets a
> number, and the url is e.g. rr.epfl.ch/3/, which I would like to
> replace by e.g. rr.epfl.ch/superresolution/. Would there be a way of
> doing this within EPrints? Or do I have to write redirects for each of
> those (meaningful) addresses to the numerical equivalent?
>
> Thanks already for your help!
> Patrick

From: "Richard M. Davis" <r.davis AT ulcc.ac.uk>
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 23:40:45 +0100

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How about a Custom ID option, like TinyURL.com offers?



Leslie Carr wrote:
> http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/eprints-tech
> *** EPrints community wiki - http://wiki.eprints.org/
> Where do you plan for those names to come from? Are they metadata in  
> the repository? If so, are the names persistent? What happens if  
> someone changes the metadata?
> --
> Les Carr


-- 
Richard M. Davis
Digital Archives & Repositories
University of London Computer Centre (ULCC)
20 Guilford Street, London WC1N 1DZ
Tel: +44 (0) 20 7692 1350
http://dablog.ulcc.ac.uk/

From: patrick.vandewalle AT epfl.ch
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 08:43:08 +0200

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Yes, something like this Custom ID would be wonderful (but preferably  
I would not have to rely on another site such as tinyURL ;).

As you said Leslie, I would assume them to come as metadata (or in a  
separate tool).

The issue is that we would like to post the URL in the published paper  
for reference to additional material (code, data sets, etc). And I  
think it is nicer to put a more "readable" URL in a paper.

Another related issue I encountered is that if I now update the item  
in the repository after the paper gets published, its update gets a  
new ID and therefore URL. This is very undesired behavior if the  
address is already published somewhere (in the paper or elsewhere...)  
A solution could be to update the PDF but not put it as a "new  
version", but that sounds a bit like unintended behavior. Are there  
any other/better options for that?

Kind regards,
Patrick

Quoting "Richard M. Davis" <r.davis AT ulcc.ac.uk>:

> http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/eprints-tech
> *** EPrints community wiki - http://wiki.eprints.org/
> How about a Custom ID option, like TinyURL.com offers?
>
>
>
> Leslie Carr wrote:
>> http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/eprints-tech
>> *** EPrints community wiki - http://wiki.eprints.org/
>> Where do you plan for those names to come from? Are they metadata in
>> the repository? If so, are the names persistent? What happens if
>> someone changes the metadata?
>> --
>> Les Carr
>
>
> --
> Richard M. Davis
> Digital Archives & Repositories
> University of London Computer Centre (ULCC)
> 20 Guilford Street, London WC1N 1DZ
> Tel: +44 (0) 20 7692 1350
> http://dablog.ulcc.ac.uk/
>
>

From: jsbien AT mimuw.edu.pl (Janusz S. =?iso-8859-2?Q?Bie=F1?=)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 09:13:26 +0200

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On Mon, 15 Jun 2009  patrick.vandewalle AT epfl.ch wrote:


[...]

> A solution could be to update the PDF but not put it as a "new  
> version", but that sounds a bit like unintended behavior. Are there  
> any other/better options for that?

What's wrong with the present version system? Although the old link
points to the old version, but the reader is informed about the more
recent one, cf. e.g.

       http://bc.klf.uw.edu.pl/112/

Moreover the recommended OpenDOAR  policy is just that:

# Changes to deposited items are not permitted.
# Errata and corrigenda lists may be included with the original record if ↵
required.
# If necessary, an updated version may be deposited. 

Best regards

Janusz

-- 
                     ,   
dr hab. Janusz S. Bien, prof. UW -  Uniwersytet Warszawski (Katedra Lingwistyki ↵
Formalnej)
Prof. Janusz S. Bien - Warsaw University (Department of Formal Linguistics)
jsbien AT uw.edu.pl, jsbien AT mimuw.edu.pl, ↵
http://fleksem.klf.uw.edu.pl/~jsbien/

From: Bas <eprints AT bb.go.nl>
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 10:02:10 +0200

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Dear Patrick

Sorry for the slow response
I just see your question now.

There should be a way.
I've done somethign similar. We wanted to have the URL's to be not just 
a number, but we wanted to have somethign like /volume/nr/

I've made two changes in the eprints system, with whcih i've managed to 
get this to work. There are several places that you have to make sure it 
works
- accepting the url's and goign to the right eprints
- review mails (should list the correct URL)
- the URL's constructed by the system

The most important is that you have somehow a way to find the correct 
eprint.
For me- i've added the volume and number fields, and i do a database 
search on it. So when someone opens a URL the system gets the eprint-id 
- and then opens the right document.

Let me know if you'd like to get more detailed info

Regards
Bas

Patrick Vandewalle schreef:
> http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/eprints-tech
> *** EPrints community wiki - http://wiki.eprints.org/
> Dear all,
>
> We have currently a rather limited size repository, and I would like  
> to know whether it is possible to assign a more 'meaningful' (manually  
> chosen) name to an item for its URL. Right now, each item gets a  
> number, and the url is e.g. rr.epfl.ch/3/, which I would like to  
> replace by e.g. rr.epfl.ch/superresolution/. Would there be a way of  
> doing this within EPrints? Or do I have to write redirects for each of  
> those (meaningful) addresses to the numerical equivalent?
>
> Thanks already for your help!
> Patrick
>
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From: Patrick Vandewalle <Patrick.Vandewalle AT epfl.ch>
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:56:45 +0200

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Dear Bas, and others,

Thanks a lot for all the replies.
I realized that it wasn't going to be a very simple adaptation  
(although I understand it should be possible, with some tweaking), so  
for now I just stick with some redirects, which do the trick too (even  
if it's not entirely through the EPrints system itself).

Thanks again!
Patrick

On 28 Jun 2009, at 10:02, Bas wrote:

> http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/eprints-tech
> *** EPrints community wiki - http://wiki.eprints.org/
> Dear Patrick
>
> Sorry for the slow response
> I just see your question now.
>
> There should be a way.
> I've done somethign similar. We wanted to have the URL's to be not  
> just
> a number, but we wanted to have somethign like /volume/nr/
>
> I've made two changes in the eprints system, with whcih i've managed  
> to
> get this to work. There are several places that you have to make  
> sure it
> works
> - accepting the url's and goign to the right eprints
> - review mails (should list the correct URL)
> - the URL's constructed by the system
>
> The most important is that you have somehow a way to find the correct
> eprint.
> For me- i've added the volume and number fields, and i do a database
> search on it. So when someone opens a URL the system gets the eprint- 
> id
> - and then opens the right document.
>
> Let me know if you'd like to get more detailed info
>
> Regards
> Bas
>
> Patrick Vandewalle schreef:
>> http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/eprints-tech
>> *** EPrints community wiki - http://wiki.eprints.org/
>> Dear all,
>>
>> We have currently a rather limited size repository, and I would like
>> to know whether it is possible to assign a more  
>> 'meaningful' (manually
>> chosen) name to an item for its URL. Right now, each item gets a
>> number, and the url is e.g. rr.epfl.ch/3/, which I would like to
>> replace by e.g. rr.epfl.ch/superresolution/. Would there be a way of
>> doing this within EPrints? Or do I have to write redirects for each  
>> of
>> those (meaningful) addresses to the numerical equivalent?
>>
>> Thanks already for your help!
>> Patrick
>>
>>
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>>
>> http://www.eset.com
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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> http://www.eset.com
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