eprints_tech messages

From: "Klaus Graf" <klausgraf AT googlemail.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 01:37:43 +0200

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Thank you. Fortunately there is a Google query:

http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&rlz=1C1CHMB_deDE291&q=+site:eprints.utas.edu.au+"Full+text+restricted"+eprints+au

Best wishes
Klaus

2008/10/11 Arthur Sale <ahjs AT ozemail.com.au>:
> Klaus
>
> I note there are subtleties in the EPrint Request Button, mainly in making
> sure that the Button does access to a correct live email address. It took ↵
us
> a week or two to sort this out, but you can try to use the button on the
> University of Tasmania repository http://eprints.utas.edu.au/. Your ↵
problem
> may be to find a restricted article - try Professor Allan Canty
> http://eprints.utas.edu.au/view/authors/Canty,_AJ.html who has a lot of
> restricted chemistry articles, or Professor Ross Large (geology).
>
> Best wishes.
>
> Arthur Sale
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stevan Harnad [mailto:harnad AT ecs.soton.ac.uk]
> Sent: Saturday, 11 October 2008 2:10 AM
> To: Klaus Graf
> Cc: Peter Suber; alexandria AT unisg.ch; Eloy Rodrigues; Leslie Carr;
> EPrints.org Technical List; dspace-general AT mit.edu
> Subject: Re: request button
>
> Dear Klaus,
>
> It is useful that you have tested and found that the U. St Gallen's
> Alexandria Repository's Eprint Request Button produced no eprints for
> six requests.
>
> The best use to which this outcome can be put is to notify the
> Alexandria Repository manager alexandria AT unisg.ch that something is
> amiss in their implementation of the Button: Either is is not working
> mechanically (the requests fail to reach the authors, or the authors'
> responses fail to generate an eprint emailing) or that their authors
> have not been informed of its function and purpose).
>
> I also suggest you try some more IRs that implement the Button.
> (Perhaps you wish to post to AmSci and JISC-REPOSITORIES to ask which
> IRs have implemented it.)
>
> The conclusions that this single Alexandria case study will *not*
> support are either that (1) the Button itself does not work,
> simpliciter, or (2) that authors don't want to use it.
>
> I also don't understand the reply that "scholars are more willing to
> send full texts when directly contacted": Is a direct email contact
> not a direct contact?
>
>  From decades of experience with reprint mailing I can say with
> confidence that the Alexandria data do not make sense to me, and are
> likely the result either of an incorrect implementation of the Button
> or a failure to inform authors about its function.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Stevan Harnad
>
> On 10-Oct-08, at 10:16 AM, Klaus Graf wrote:
>
>> I have published one more test using the Alexandria server at Sankt
>> Gallen (Switzerland):
>>
>> http://archiv.twoday.net/stories/5247312/
>>
>> From 6 requested full texts I received none. Alexandria manager says
>> that their experience is that scholars are more willing to send
>> fulltexts when directly contacted.
>>
>> Best,
>> Klaus
>>
>> 2008/9/18 Peter Suber <peters AT earlham.edu>:
>>> If the button is illegal under German law, or if some existing
>>> buttons are
>>> not working as intended, you're doing a service by pointing that ↵
out.
>>>
>>> But I never argued that the button should be implemented where it ↵
was
>>> illegal or that the defective ones were not defective.  As far as ↵
I
>>> know,
>>> neither did Stevan.
>>>
>>>     Best,
>>>     Peter
>>>
>>>
>>> At 05:30 PM 9/17/2008, you wrote:
>>>
>>> As you have seen I have summarized the findings of
>>>
>>> http://archiv.twoday.net/stories/5193609/
>>>
>>> in the AMSCI forum. If you know a better discussion of the request
>>> button please let me know.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Klaus
>
>
>
>