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RE: [EP-tech] Questions on use

From: Tim Brody <tdb198 AT ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 19:24:09 +0100 (BST)


Threading: RE: [EP-tech] Questions on use from eds AT library.caltech.edu
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On Tue, 15 May 2001, Ed Sponsler wrote:

> It is fortunate that OAI compliant archives (such as EPrints) spit out
> metadata in XML. Thus, a important chunk of the document (the front 
matter)
> is effectively already stored in XML. Now, if the bibliography were also
> tagged in valid XML, then only the body of the document would require
> definition. 

We, in OpCit (http://opcit.eprints.org), are working towards this. For
example see:
http://cite-base.ecs.soton.ac.uk/cgi-bin/oai/OAI-script?verb=GetRecord&metadataPrefix=opcit_dc&identifier=oai:arXiv:hep-th/0001001
(liable to change, breakage etc.)

That data is based on the automatic conversion of LaTeX bibliographic
records.

> [Using XML for storing bibliographic info opens up some interesting
> possibilities, such as context-sensitive reference linking:
> http://www.sfxit.com. Utilities are available for converting the output of
> common bibliographic tools, such as Endnote (Word) and BibTex (LaTex):
> http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/biblio/bibtex/utils/bibtools/.]

(you may also be interested in http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/ which, I
believe, stores its documents in XML - I would expect medical reports
don't suffer as much from XML's inability to express formulas. Journals
provide the properly formatted XML using a PubMed DTD)

> Does anyone have any thoughts on all this? Do you think authors will ever
> give up their beloved Word, WordPerfect or LaTeX editors in favor of an 
XML
> one? Do you think plug-ins will be developed for Word to enforce DTD
> compliance? Does anyone know of an LaTeX/.cls to XML/DTD converter? Is it
> really that important to store the document body in XML at all, or is it
> good enough to have XML front matter (already here), XML bibliographies
> (just around the corner) and an open-standard-formatted body like PDF or
> postscript?

Only to say that archives will always store the formats that authors give
them, otherwise the authors won't give the archive's any documents!
(and while authors use Word, Perfect, LaTeX, dodgy HTML ...)

All the best,
Tim Brody
ECS, Southampton

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